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.s. troops, shep. >> shepard: sheriffs clinton was at that meeting in brussels. she aimed her words about the syria crisis at another country. >> yes. the secretary directed her comments to russia. she emphasized that the stain legs of these patriot systems in turkey is not meant to destabilize nato's already uneasy relationship with moscow. back here at state chided the russians for skipping upcoming crisis meeting on the syrian conflict. >> we want to see obviously, you know, russia come around to the point of view of the international community with regard to what's happening in syria. you know, we want to work with russia as we have said many times from this podium on the basis of the geneva action group's communication. >> clinton is expected to meet with her russian counterpart sometime in the next 48 hours, shep. >> shepard: meantime syrian rebels are taking their fight to the capital of damascus. move aimed at putting additional pressure of regime and hitting the heart of president assad's power. that strategy is coming at a bloody cost. witnesses say a mortar slammed into a ninth

be -- if you raise the rates up to the clinton levels for the top two percent you make 82 billion a year. that is not enough to close the gap . washington post on the editorial page. we looked at what the president suggested and republicans suggested it is nice that they are starting to talk. but the numbers have to be a lot bigger . you need real tax reform. >> gretchen: he won the election with that argument. >> steve: republicans won the congress with their argument that they didn't want to raise the rates. >> brian: if you want to know what the president things. you can go flip channels and find out about the briefing and the president's stance on taxes and goal with the economy and maybe what he will say in the inauguration. look who was invited to the white house >> chris: who was left to run msnbc. >> happy and ed and arihanna huffington. i don't know if the white house released the fact. but someone from the blog sites saw it. and so wait a minute what is going on. yeah, we were invited for not a strategy but just to explain. >> gretchen: i don't know why anybody. >> brian: five

republicans? joining us for a fair & balanced debate, simon rosenberg, a former clinton campaign adviser and president and founder of ndn, just for clarity, a democrat. and the former chairman of the republican party of virginia. kate, does the republican party mead to change its position on immigration? >> well, does it darn dash no it needs to actually star, it needs to talk bim congratulations. strstrategic decisions were made to stay away from the issues that affected these democrat i cans that the republicans did terrible with. the democrats define you on these positions, then as anti-immigration or as the president defined the republicans as the enemy of latino, he actually used that word. rips have to start being savvy and realize that their message is won't that truly does appeal to immigrants, the one of hope and opportunity. why do immigrants come to the united states? for freedom and prosperity. republicans have to start conveying they are the party of freedom and prosperity and start talking about legal immigration. look at these people around the world who have spent their l

? >> actually, california voted for clinton before pete wilson got involved in the debate over whether illegal immigrants ought to have welfare benefits. democrat is a democratic state because it's state of immigrants for the reasons that charles mentioned. what is missing is not all immigrants are the same. many latin american countries send us immigrants that go on welfare. but does the united states need new numbers of the low skilled immigrants in a post industrial economy? is that good for the united states? it's mindless to say all immigrants are good. they are not. some are, some aren't. like all days are good. some days are good, some days aren't. we need and the republican party ought to be courageous enough to draw a distinction between people who add to the sum total of the american economy, buy in the culture, who improve the country and those who don't. there is a difference. >> bret: where is the screen? >> well, the screen begins with a conversation about outcomes. why is it that immigrants with certain countries have not thrived and immigrants from other countries have thrived?

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